Temecula Wine Tour from LA — From $75/Hr, 3-Hr Minimum

At a glance

Key facts

This page is about a day that leaves Los Angeles, which changes the arithmetic without changing the rate. Hourly rides are meant to start and end in the same city. If a day runs outside it, additional charges apply.
An executive sedan is from $75 the hour. A luxury SUV is from $100. Neither figure moves for a Saturday, a dawn start or a heavy road.
3 hours is the floor under any booking — from $225 by sedan, from $300 by SUV — and 18 hours the ceiling on a single one. A day out of the county belongs near the ceiling, not near the floor.
Driving is bought time. Getting out to the valley and getting home again are hours against the block, priced at the same from $75 or from $100 as the hours the car spends standing still. There is no free approach drive on this or any other hourly day.
Mileage arrives with the hours: 20 miles per booked hour. Go beyond the allowance and a sedan mile is $1, an SUV mile $2.50. Both are fixed, and 50 miles over is $50 by sedan or $125 by SUV.
The hours are added up and the day is measured against the total, not each hour's 20 on its own. On a run to wine country that matters more than on any other day in this nest: the drive out is long and the hours at the wineries are short, and the short hours pay for the long drive.
What holds regardless: a day out to the valley and home again passes the allowance even pooled across the whole booking. That is the sentence this page exists to put in front of you beforehand rather than afterwards.
No figure for a whole Temecula day is printed here, and none is hinted at. The ladder below prices hours and stops there. Dispatch measures the distance from wherever you are collected and quotes the day entire: (833) 743-3360.
Most parties are better off buying this day as a long-distance trip than by the hour. It is a different product carrying a different price, and it lives at city to city rides.
Inside the block the meter does not exist. An iRide360 hourly booking carries no per-minute waiting charge at any point, so a stop that lasts an hour costs what a stop that lasts ten minutes costs.
Past the block, charging moves in half hours and every part of one counts whole. A 10-hour booking ending at 10 hours 15 minutes bills as 10 hours 30 minutes; ending at 10 hours 40 minutes it bills as 11. None of that rounding touches the hours still unspent.
The hours open where you are standing, not where the car slept, and they shut once the final drop-off is made. Sending the car out to find you is iRide360's cost to carry.
One chauffeur holds the booking end to end, 3 hours or 18. Nobody is handed the wheel halfway down a long road.
Parking, tolls and taxes come out of the rate wherever the car ends up — a lot, a meter, a valet stand. You never see the ticket. The single thing left to you is a venue's own parking pass, sold beside its tickets.
Gratuity is yours to set and nothing is attached before you have looked. The checkout offers 15, 18, 20 or 25 percent, a figure of your own, or nothing at all.
Rates for special events and holidays may be different from the standard hourly rate, and the number for your date is on screen in full before anything is confirmed. Beyond that there is no surge, no peak rate, no night rate, no weekend rate.
Two classes, and that is the fleet. Sedan: 3 seats, 3 bags. SUV: 5 seats, 5 bags. No vans, no buses, no stretched vehicles. Past five people, a party larger than five travels in more than one car on one reservation.
This is a chauffeur service and not a tour operator. iRide360 names no vineyard as a partner, holds nothing on your behalf, lays out no itinerary and sells no guided tour.
Fiji bottled water, onboard Wi-Fi and a phone charger ride along at no charge. Anything else, ask as you book.
Everything here runs on California CPUC charter-party carrier permit TCP 43833-A, out of Suite 2000, 222 N Pacific Coast Hwy, El Segundo, California, with the dispatch line (833) 743-3360 answered at three in the morning as readily as at three in the afternoon. Rated 5.0★ on Google from 26 reviews.
A day this long out is often booked weeks ahead. Changing it is free: online up to 6 hours before pickup, or by phone to dispatch inside 6 hours, and the price moves to match the new trip. Cancelling is free with a full refund 24 hours or more before pickup; inside 24 hours it is non-refundable.

At a glance

Service facts

The whole day in one table: what the hours buy, where the price can move, and what nobody at iRide360 will pretend this service is.

On sale	Hours. A chauffeur and a car held for every one of them, driven to addresses you supply, never released mid-block to somebody else's job. Nothing is bundled around it: no package, no route planned for you, no tour
The rate	Executive sedan from $75 the hour · luxury SUV from $100. 3 hours is as short as a booking goes, at from $225 or from $300, and 18 hours as long as one runs. Rates for special events and holidays may be different from the standard hourly rate, with your own date shown whole before you commit. Past that exception nothing is loaded on for peak traffic, a late finish or a weekend
Why this particular day is quoted	Because distance moves two things at once: the mileage, which starts at 20 with each booked hour, and the hours themselves, spent on the road going and coming. Hourly rides are meant to start and end in the same city. If a day runs outside it, additional charges apply
Mileage, and the price of exceeding it	Each booked hour brings 20 miles. Beyond the allowance a sedan mile is $1 and an SUV mile $2.50 — two fixed charges that apply to hourly bookings and to nothing else, so 70 miles over is $70 or $175 and 140 over is $140 or $350 (confirmed by iRide360, 6 November 2026). The miles are counted across the booking as one total, so the hours standing at a winery carry the run out and back
Standing still	Free, as long as unspent hours remain. Nowhere in an iRide360 hourly booking is a minute metered, so where the car waits and for how long changes nothing about the figure
When counting starts and stops	Where you are, at the address you supplied, through to the final drop-off. Fetching the car out to you is iRide360's expense. Begin at an airport and counting waits for wheels-down — the real moment, not the timetable's — with the flight watched at no charge
Finishing late	Half-hour steps, each rounded up. A 10-hour booking that finishes 15 minutes late is billed 10 hours 30 minutes; 40 minutes late and it is billed 11 hours. Only the hours already gone trigger that; unspent ones are never repriced
iRide360 pays / you pay	iRide360 absorbs parking, tolls and tax wherever the car ends up, and you never see the ticket. You buy one thing only: a venue's own parking pass, where a venue sells one. Added on top are the gratuity you pick at checkout, which may be nothing, plus any mileage past the allowance and any time past the block
The cars	Two classes and nothing on either side of them. 3 seats and 3 bags in the executive sedan; 5 seats and 5 bags in the luxury SUV. No vans, no buses, no stretched vehicles — and wine country is precisely where people expect otherwise. A party larger than five travels in more than one car on one reservation
What it is not	Not a tour. No vineyard is named as a partner, no reservation is held for you, no entry price is quoted, no route around the valley is drawn, and no arrangement exists with anybody in it. A chauffeur drives, waits and lifts the bags. There is no guiding and no narration
Who you are dealing with	iRide360, a black car operator under California CPUC charter-party carrier permit TCP 43833-A. Suite 2000, 222 N Pacific Coast Hwy, El Segundo, California, a short run from LAX; dispatch on (833) 743-3360 at any hour at all. Every iRide360 vehicle carries at least $750,000 in liability insurance, and your ride is operated by iRide360 or a vetted, licensed affiliate partner

Published rates

What the hours themselves cost

Two classes, one published rate apiece, nothing added for a Saturday, an early start or a late finish. Read the table as the price of hours. It is not a Temecula day and nothing on this page turns it into one.

Booking length	Executive sedan	Luxury SUV	Mileage
3 hours, the floor under any booking	from $225	from $300	Each booked hour brings 20 miles
5 hours, a long afternoon in town	from $375	from $500	Each booked hour brings 20 miles
8 hours	from $600	from $800	Each booked hour brings 20 miles
10 hours	from $750	from $1,000	Each booked hour brings 20 miles
12 hours, the length a day out of the county asks for	from $900	from $1,200	Each booked hour brings 20 miles

Each row is the published rate multiplied out: 12 sedan hours come to from $900 and 12 SUV hours to from $1,200. Anything between 3 hours and 18 can be booked. Rates for special events and holidays may be different from the standard hourly rate, and whichever applies to your date shows on screen first. What the table cannot carry is the mileage. On a day inside the city that seldom matters. On a day out to the valley it is the other half of the price, and it is settled on (833) 743-3360 rather than in a column.

What the hourly rate includes

The car and the chauffeur for every booked hour, including every hour the car spends standing still.
20 miles with each booked hour, in both classes.
Parking wherever the car ends up — a lot, a meter, a valet stand — along with the tolls and the tax. You never see the ticket.
Flight tracking where the day opens at an airport, so counting waits for wheels-down and a delay shifts the block later instead of eating it.
Fiji bottled water, onboard Wi-Fi and a phone charger, at no charge.

What is not included

Gratuity — picked by you at checkout — 15, 18, 20 or 25 percent, a figure of your own, or nothing at all — and it goes to the chauffeur who drove.
Any time past the block — charged in half-hour steps with every part of one counting whole, so a 10-hour booking finishing 15 minutes late is billed 10 hours 30 minutes and one finishing 40 minutes late is billed 11 hours.
Any mileage past the allowance — $1 a further mile in the executive sedan, $2.50 in the luxury SUV.
A venue's own parking pass, where a venue sells one — bought by the guest, not by iRide360.

Two meters, both printed

The arithmetic of a Temecula day, worked through before you book it

Most pages selling a Temecula wine tour from Los Angeles lead on a package figure. This one leads on the rule such a figure keeps out of sight.

Hourly rides are meant to start and end in the same city. If a day runs outside it, additional charges apply. Temecula is not Los Angeles. That rule governs this page from its opening line and is softened nowhere below it.

Two meters turn at once on a day of this shape. Both are printed. Neither is discovered later.

Meter one: the road is on the clock

Hours spent reaching the valley and hours spent coming home are hours against the block. They cost from $75 in the executive sedan and from $100 in the luxury SUV, the identical price of an hour spent parked outside somewhere. A long approach is neither free nor discounted. Buy a block and the road helps itself first.

That single fact settles more Temecula days than everything else here put together. Size a block around the stops alone, with nothing set aside for the road, and it runs dry before you are home — whereupon the overrun rounds up, and the section on overruns below works that through.

Meter two: the allowance, and the one thing about it nobody has published

Each booked hour brings 20 miles along with it. That figure is published, and so is the way it is counted: the hours are added up and the day is measured against the total rather than each hour's 20 belonging to that hour. On a short day inside the city the two readings come to the same thing. On a long day they do not, and this page will not do your arithmetic on a rule nobody has stated.

So have the mileage estimate written onto the quote before you book. It is one question, it takes a minute, and on a day of this length it is the question that decides what you pay.

What is settled, and fixed however the counting goes, is the price of passing the allowance: $1 for every further mile in the executive sedan, $2.50 in the luxury SUV. Neither moves for a date or a season, so the overage scales without any assumption at all — 70 miles past the allowance is $70 by executive sedan or $175 by luxury SUV, and 140 miles past it is $140 or $350. Double the miles and you double the charge, on either car.

And one thing holds under every reading of the rule. An hour of open road eats far more than 20 miles. A day that drives out to the valley, around it and home again passes the allowance even with every booked hour's miles pooled together. That is not a close call, it does not turn on any detail of the rule, and it is the honest thing to say: mileage on a day like this is not a line at the bottom of an invoice. It is one of the two things setting the price.

Which is why no Temecula day total appears here

Not in the title, not in the hero, not in the ladder, not in an answer below. The table further down prices hours, full stop. What a particular day costs turns on where you are collected and how far the car actually travels, and dispatch measures both before quoting: (833) 743-3360.

And for most parties this is the wrong product

Said outright, because the alternative is an argument at the end of an otherwise good day. A booking whose real content is one long drive out, a pause, and one long drive back is a transfer with a gap in it, not an hourly day. Bought by the hour it pays twice — once in hours for the road, once in miles past the allowance. Bought as a long-distance trip it is priced as the single thing it actually is.

Count the numbers you would be committing to. Two of the three are published and fixed: the hourly rate and the per-mile overage. The third — how the miles are counted against the allowance — is settled: the day's miles run against the day's whole allowance, which on a day this long is the reading that costs you least. Buying hours means buying that open question. Asking dispatch to price the day as a trip means asking about distance directly, which is what the day is actually made of.

If the day is Los Angeles out to Temecula and back, begin at city to city rides, or put it to dispatch on (833) 743-3360 and ask for both numbers. The long-distance one usually comes in lower. A page that argues you out of the wrong booking has done more for you than one that quietly takes it.

Book by the hour instead when hours rather than distance are the thing you want — when the car is wanted in one place for a long stretch, when nobody can name the finishing time, or when the day genuinely stays inside the city.

The arithmetic of a Temecula day, worked through before you book it

The car, the hours and the chauffeur

What iRide360 sells on a day in wine country, and what it does not

Being exact here saves a phone call, and it is the honest distance between this page and most of what a search turns up.

You are buying the car, the hours and the chauffeur. Nothing rides along with that.

No vineyard is a partner: there is no arrangement, no relationship and no standing agreement with any business in the valley, and none is named here.
Nothing is held on your behalf: wherever you are going, those reservations are yours.
No entry price appears on this page: that belongs to somebody else and is not iRide360's to publish.
No route around the valley is drawn for you: where the day goes is yours to settle, in advance or as it happens, and the chauffeur drives to the addresses you give.
The chauffeur neither guides nor narrates: driving, waiting and the luggage. That is the entire role.

For scale rather than for routing: the Temecula Valley Winegrowers Association puts the region at 33,000 acres and 47 wineries, and Visit Temecula Valley describes them as clustered rather than spread across it. Those are published regional figures, cited at the foot of this page, and iRide360 claims nothing about any single address inside them.

The van question, answered before it is asked

Two cars, 5 seats, and the vehicle that is not in the fleet

Wine country is exactly where people expect a big van to be on offer, so here is the answer before anybody asks for one.

iRide360 runs two vehicle classes and no third. No vans, no buses, no stretched vehicles.

Executive sedan: 3 seats, 3 bags, from $75 the hour.
Luxury SUV: 5 seats, 5 bags, from $100 the hour.

Past five people the answer is another car rather than a bigger one: a party larger than five travels in more than one car on one reservation, so eight people means two vehicles on a single booking instead of two separate bookings. Each car carries its own allowance, 20 miles against each hour, and mileage past it is priced per car at $1 or $2.50. Anyone who arrived here hunting a stretched vehicle or a bus has the wrong service, and reading that now beats discovering it on the day.

Two cars, 5 seats, and the vehicle that is not in the fleet

Five for anybody, the sixth for this day

The six answers to settle before any long-distance day is booked

Operators draw the line between what sits inside the figure and what turns up afterwards in different places, which is why day rates that look alike rarely are. Five of these are worth putting to anybody you ring. The sixth decides a Temecula day outright, and almost nobody is asked it.

1. Is the waiting charged?

No, and at no point in the booking. An iRide360 hourly booking carries no per-minute waiting charge anywhere inside it. An hour standing at one address and ten minutes at the next come to the same thing, both having been bought at the outset, by the hour.

A point-to-point transfer runs the other way about, the chauffeur there being released at the drop-off: an arriving flight buys 60 free minutes and $1 a minute follows them. That is transfer policy and it touches nothing sold by the hour — it never reaches anything on this page.

2. How far does a booking drive before a mile costs extra?

The figure is printed: 20 miles per booked hour. A day can be held against a number. It cannot be held against the word “included”.

Beyond the allowance a sedan mile is $1 and an SUV mile $2.50. Inside the city that figure is generally read once and never met. Out in the valley it is half of what sets the price, which is the argument this page opens on.

3. Is a gratuity attached before you see it?

Nothing is added for you. At checkout the choices are 15, 18, 20 or 25 percent, a figure of your own, or nothing at all, and whatever you pick goes to the chauffeur who drove. No service charge rides on the hourly rate.

4. Who settles parking, tolls and taxes?

iRide360 does, out of the rate, wherever the car ends up. A lot, a meter, a valet stand, a toll, the tax — each is the operator's to settle and you never see the ticket.

One thing stays yours: a venue's own parking pass, where a venue sells one. Buy it with the tickets if you want the car held close in. Leave it and nothing breaks, the chauffeur holding somewhere near and coming round on a call.

5. From what moment are the hours counted?

From where you are standing, at the address you supplied, through to the final drop-off. Sending the car out to find you is iRide360's expense and never yours.

Start at an airport and counting waits for wheels-down, the real moment rather than the printed one. The flight is watched at no charge, so two hours of delay shift the block later instead of eating it.

The rounding rule, in plain view

When a long day runs longer than it was booked for

A day with a long drive at either end is the likeliest in this whole service to overrun, so the rule sits here in plain view rather than in small print.

Past the block, charging moves in half-hour steps and every part of one counts as a whole. Worked at this page's own block length: a 10-hour booking finishing at 10 hours 15 minutes is billed 10 hours 30 minutes, and one finishing at 10 hours 40 minutes is billed 11 hours. Forty minutes over is a whole hour, and that is better read here than met afterwards.

It is a separate rule from the waiting rule and the two never meet. Nothing inside the booked hours is metered at all — a stop that runs long while hours remain costs nothing extra. The rounding starts only once those hours have gone.

Extending depends on the car and the chauffeur being free afterwards, up to the 18-hour ceiling on one booking. Say so the moment you suspect it: tell the chauffeur, and dispatch confirms it on (833) 743-3360.

The practical conclusion for a day out of town is to buy the hours the road needs, not the hours the stops need.

When a long day runs longer than it was booked for

Four shapes of day, four honest answers

Who books a chauffeur out to the valley, and who should not

Four shapes of day arrive at this page, and the honest answer differs for each.

A group wanting one car and one driver for all of it

5 people and 5 bags go in a single luxury SUV, and one chauffeur holds the booking from the first address to the last, 3 hours or 18, with nobody swapped in at the halfway mark of a long day. This is the shape an hourly booking genuinely suits — provided the hours bought include the road.

A visitor who will not rent a car

Here for a few days, one of them spent out of the city. The hourly product does this, the same-city rule still applies, and the day is therefore quoted rather than listed.

A long drive at either end with one long gap between

This one is a transfer, and saying so is the most useful thing on the page. Two long drives with a pause between them price better at city to city rides than by the hour. Ask dispatch for both numbers and take the smaller.

A party of eight or more

Two cars on one booking, because a party larger than five travels in more than one car on one reservation. There is no third vehicle class waiting behind the question, and the mileage on a long day is then priced per car.

Parking, out in a wide valley

From the driver's seat

Parking is the chauffeur's problem and not the passenger's, which on a day spread across a wide valley is worth knowing beforehand. Where a stop has nothing at the door, the car is held somewhere close by, the chauffeur stays reachable, and it comes round when you say you are ready. None of it is yours to arrange. The time it takes sits inside hours already bought and the parking sits inside the rate, so neither one surfaces later as a charge.

The permit, the cover, the people

Licensing and trust

Permit: California CPUC charter-party carrier permit TCP 43833-A.
Insurance: Every iRide360 vehicle carries at least $750,000 in liability insurance.
Chauffeurs: Every chauffeur, including our affiliate partners', is screened and background-checked.
Who drives you: Your ride is operated by iRide360 or a vetted, licensed affiliate partner.
Partner vetting: Before any partner goes live, we run a background check, verify the driver's license with the DMV, confirm insurance, and review a vehicle inspection report.
Printed, not withheld: the rate, the minimum, the allowance, the per-mile overage, the waiting rule, the rounding rule and the same-city rule are all on this page rather than behind a form.
Based at: Suite 2000, 222 N Pacific Coast Hwy, El Segundo, California 90245, a short run from LAX.
Reachable: dispatch answers on (833) 743-3360, whatever hour it is.

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Ask for both numbers

Get the day priced, both ways

Get the hourly price: Book an hourly car.
Weigh it as a long-distance trip: city to city rides.
Ring dispatch: (833) 743-3360, around the clock — ask for both numbers.
Permit: California CPUC charter-party carrier permit TCP 43833-A.
Based at: Suite 2000, 222 N Pacific Coast Hwy, El Segundo, CA 90245.
Rated: 5.0★ on Google from 26 reviews.

The sixth answer, and the one that decides this day

What does it cost when the day leaves the city?

Hourly rides are meant to start and end in the same city. If a day runs outside it, additional charges apply.

Charged, not refused — and a Temecula day meets this rule every single time, which is why it leads this page instead of hiding at the bottom. Distance moves two things together: the miles beyond the allowance, at $1 or $2.50, and the hours themselves, the driving out and back being time you are already buying by the hour.

Before a day of that shape, ring (833) 743-3360 and ask for it both ways — as an hourly booking and as a long-distance trip. Look at city to city rides first. For a day that is mostly road, the second number is usually the smaller one, and iRide360 would rather tell you that now.

Working the overage, and the part of it nobody can work out for you

A method, not a quote. Your own figures come from dispatch.

Start with what is fixed. A 10-hour block in the executive sedan is from $750 for the time — the published rate carried across 10 hours, already holding the car, the chauffeur, every idle minute, the tolls, the taxes and the parking. The same block in the luxury SUV is from $1,000.

Then the mileage, which is where a long day moves. Past the allowance a sedan mile is $1 and an SUV mile $2.50, so the charge climbs in a straight line: 70 miles over is $70 or $175, 140 over is $140 or $350, 280 over is $280 or $700. None of that rests on an assumption. It is two fixed rates multiplied out, and you can hold anybody to it.

What it cannot tell you is how many miles “over” you are, because that depends on the route you actually drive. The counting method is settled — the day's miles against the day's whole allowance — so the sum you need is the round trip against the booking's total.

The same-city rule then sits on top of all of it. Leaving Los Angeles is charged in miles and in hours, the driving being bought time — and should the road home run past the block, the overrun rounds up to the next half hour.

Three charges on a day out of town: two published at a fixed rate, one resting on a rule nobody has stated. That is why a day like this is quoted rather than listed, and why city to city rides is usually the cheaper way to buy it.

Answers before you travel

Temecula wine tour from Los Angeles: frequently asked questions

Can iRide360 drive us from Los Angeles to Temecula wine country for the day?

Yes, and the day is charged rather than turned down. Hourly rides are meant to start and end in the same city. If a day runs outside it, additional charges apply — miles beyond the allowance, plus the extra hours, driving being bought time.

What does a Temecula wine tour from Los Angeles cost?

It is bought by the hour: from $75 in an executive sedan, from $100 in a luxury SUV, with 3 hours the shortest block at from $225 and from $300. What the whole day comes to turns on distance, and dispatch quotes it on (833) 743-3360.

Why is no total for the whole day printed here?

Two things move with the distance — mileage beyond the allowance, and the hours the road takes. Neither is known until dispatch measures from your pickup address. A number printed before that would be a guess, and you would meet the difference later.

Does the drive out and the drive home come out of our booked hours?

Yes. The road is bought time, at the same from $75 or from $100 as every other hour. No approach drive is free, so a block sized only around the stops runs dry before you are back.

How does the mileage allowance work on a day that long?

Each booked hour brings 20 miles. Beyond the allowance a sedan mile is $1 and an SUV mile $2.50, so 50 miles over is $50 or $125. The miles are counted against the booking as a whole, so a six-hour day carries 120.

Would a Temecula day be cheaper bought as a long-distance trip?

Usually. A day that is two long drives with a gap between them is really a transfer, and it is priced as one at /city-to-city-rides. Ring (833) 743-3360, ask for both numbers, take the smaller.

Does the car wait at each stop, and does waiting cost anything?

It waits, and it costs nothing. No minute of an iRide360 hourly booking is metered, so the car stands there with the chauffeur beside it on time already bought at the outset, by the hour.

We are 40 minutes late getting home. What is charged?

A whole further hour. Past the block, charging moves in half-hour steps with every part of one counting whole: a 10-hour booking finishing at 10 hours 15 minutes bills 10 hours 30 minutes, and 40 minutes late bills 11 hours.

Our party is eight people. How does that work?

Two cars on one booking. A party larger than five travels in more than one car on one reservation, the 5-seat luxury SUV being the largest thing iRide360 runs. No vans, no buses, no stretched vehicles.

Is this a tour, or only the car and the chauffeur?

Only the car, the hours and the chauffeur. iRide360 is a chauffeur service and not a tour operator, so nothing comes bundled with a booking and no package sits behind one.

Do you pick the vineyards or hold our reservations?

Neither. Where the day goes is yours to choose and the reservations are yours to hold. iRide360 has no arrangement with any business in the valley and books nothing for anybody. Give the chauffeur addresses and the car goes to them.

Does the chauffeur guide us around the valley?

No. A chauffeur drives, waits and lifts the bags, and neither guides nor narrates. Nobody on an iRide360 booking is a guide and no commentary comes with the day.

How many hours should a Temecula day be booked for?

That one belongs to dispatch on (833) 743-3360, turning as it does on your pickup address and how many stops you want. This page publishes no drive time, having no measurement of its own to publish. Buy the road as well as the stops.

Who pays the parking and the tolls out in the valley, and is gratuity added?

iRide360 absorbs parking, tolls and tax out of the rate wherever the car ends up. The one exception is a venue's own parking pass. Gratuity is never added for you: 15, 18, 20 or 25 percent, your own figure, or nothing.

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